May 19th, 2017

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Syconium, page 134 by: Furrama May 27, 2017, 5:13 pm

Oh here it is, the tie in the the MOON thing.
Syconium, page 127 by: Furrama May 27, 2017, 3:28 pm

Looking back on it, I guess panel seven was hinting at her real colors.
Syconium, page 166 by: Kaidona May 26, 2017, 3:14 pm

It's a source of frustration for me that nasty people manage to trick kids into thinking they're oppressed because they're unhealthily obsessed with [thing]. That's my only major contribution.

As far as why I don't like fictionkin it's a matter of perspective. My original works are very personal to me. The last thing I would want is some stranger claiming that one of the characters I spent over a decade crafting was their identity.

Kuu's argumen specifically had to do with them, not otherkin as a whole. I joined simply to clarify what fictionkin were and it spiralled.

Syconium, page 166 by: May 26, 2017, 1:45 pm

Yeah and the original argument was that "it's easy to dismiss women feeling powerless because otherkin exist." The whole thing is indefensible.
Syconium, page 166 by: Finity May 26, 2017, 12:43 pm

Yeah, you know, as an otherkin (and transgender) reader, this has been kind of an uncomfortable conversation to watch crop up out of basically nowhere.
Kaidona, I'm under the impression that people will take any excuse to justify their hatred for transgender identities; the fault doesn't lie with otherkin or fictionkin (and/or kids being publicly embarrassing online, which they will always find new and interesting ways to do on their journeys to adulthood). No sense in holding any of them responsible.
Syconium, page 166 by: May 26, 2017, 9:05 am

This page is about rape fantasies dinamics and sex and you guys link it to otherkins and transexual people just to report your distaste.
Syconium, page 166 by: Kaidona May 26, 2017, 7:07 am

Okay, the reason I didn't get into the part about the trans community being affected is because it's not only trolls, and I'm fully aware that most of them are. I was attempting not to extend the discussion further holy shit.

Next time try not to call people gullible where it's unwarranted. Trolls or not it DOES affect the trans community. People who aren't aware of the troll ratio see that shit and pass judgements in all directions.

Syconium, page 166 by: kuu May 26, 2017, 6:35 am

and how the hell is it healthy and good to be mentaly ill and link yourself to a fictional character? i can't report a nice troll to the mods but

"i had a two hour panic attack because I'l never see Papyrus and Dad again" how is that healthy to use for your mental illness? "well I don't know why I'm upset, must be because I won't see my fellow Undertale cannonmates again"
Syconium, page 166 by: kuu May 26, 2017, 6:19 am

well the one who was crying about seeing porn of themself on tumblr is on chickensmootie. gotta love a kid friendly site where they black list snarky people who tell the trolls to stop being trollish while being labled one themself

they should make me a mod there and give strikes to the kiddos who pull those stunts.
a harsh no nonsence one "hi i'm kin of _______ blahblahblah" and blacklist from the 'kin topic you go more when the pranksters go "hey I'm kin of _________ I'm looking for cannon mates from my own world"

and then they cry about how mean the world is and wear ribbons for mental health awarness or sob how mommy and daddy don't care about their belief.

I think I have a screen capture of the mentaly ill kid who was on tumblr and "saw images of her kintype that were of an adult nature and it got her very upset to the point of a panic attack" or it put them in tears and they really wish people would tag it. because it was offensive.

when so many are ill why not just push to make fiction kin a mental illness? it's for their own good. at least now they could get some legal benefits. a person who beliefs to be a video game character can be discriminated against, a mentally ill person can't
Syconium, page 166 by: May 25, 2017, 7:53 pm

how to know the otherkin trolls are successful: people like kuu and kaidona fell for it
Syconium, page 166 by: May 25, 2017, 3:47 pm

well this went places

i know it's tempting to make fun of otherkin because they seem weird, but let me tell you most of the extreme otherkin behavoir you've seen is almost certainly trolls trying to make them look bad. most otherkin/fictionkin are usually just mentally ill and/or young people using fictional characters to cope, and you rarely ever see them pulling dramatic bs like the comments have been describing.
Syconium, page 166 by: May 25, 2017, 12:15 pm

This conversation is waaaaay weirder than someone empathizing with Greenie.
Syconium, page 166 by: May 25, 2017, 7:29 am

person 1:
"help help someone is spreading sexualy explicit images of me on the internet"

person 2: * sees images* "uh these are drawings of what looks like a Final Fantasy character"

person 1: "yeah that is me, it's so horrible. isn't it. I know what revenge porn now feels like"
Syconium, page 166 by: kuu May 25, 2017, 6:35 am

well it is all patrarchy, be it a real woman oggled AND a guy oggling a cartoon character a woman thinks she is. it does mean oggling a real person

so if I thought I was an anime/game/comic/cartoon character. I have every right to be weirded out when I know how many people think I'm sexy and collect naughty drawings of me and fantasize about me..., me being said character?

that is the same thing?

"stop having sexual thoughts about Orihime Inoue because that is who I really am. my problem is as valid as being groped on the subway! its the same thing, trust me on this. it is cat calling to me"

that is valid?
Syconium, page 166 by: May 24, 2017, 10:04 am

It is better to just believe women when they say things rather than trying to empathize through a false equivalency. Systemic patriarchy and the effects of that system are not at all the same as the one time you felt weird because you found out fictionkin exist.
Syconium, page 166 by: kuu May 24, 2017, 7:41 am

i gave it as an example.

if I said this makes me uncomphertable because I identify as these, and say "i am the real one"

when another woman says "I don't like people perving on me"

and I say "I know how you feel. here is my story"

more women "people see me as_________" will be
"oh yeah, I encounterd one of those." and tell them my story.

as for the "it hurts the Trans community"

80% of facebook likes the way tumblr acts

hopefully Zack's characters don't get hijacked, but they won't because other's comics were more popular or marketable. maybe it's to cerebral of a work or the niche is to small . but it's a thing
Syconium, page 166 by: May 24, 2017, 1:43 am

"Look at all these Tumblr PERVERTS, I am totally normal and not like them at all"
Syconium, page 166 by: Kaidona May 23, 2017, 3:39 pm

Particularly if you don't want a concussion from hitting yourself in the face too much. And then you still hope to gods the people you follow aren't eventually poisoned by the toxicity you're trying to guard yourself from. I've seen a lot of people I followed getting worn down and turned by the parts of Tumblr they criticized. It's painful to watch.